tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post8497438751963722961..comments2023-10-29T03:21:50.171-04:00Comments on SCHWAPP!!!: Tyler Perry: Hypocrite & Union BusterAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05734361945694475981noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post-31685836228684977862008-10-13T17:18:00.000-04:002008-10-13T17:18:00.000-04:00I guess the only part where we aren't in lockstep ...I guess the only part where we aren't in lockstep is on whether the unions are catering. <BR/><BR/>No...it isn't that I don't think unions resemble the lowest common denominator's work ethic. It's whether you can consider it as an entity catering to it when they're elected. <BR/><BR/>Much like our federal government, if the union sucks, it is largely because of the short-sightedness and stupidity of its electorate, rather than the system or those that serve as its moving parts.<BR/><BR/>Like the recent bailout deal. Were either of the plans perfect? No. But the second one was even worse than the first. Why didn't the first pass? Because a few people who kept hearing the "Wall Street Vs Main Street" bullshit believed it was only going to help rich folks who screwed up. By the time the news cycle pushed out the idea that bailing out Wall Street DOES, in fact, help Main Street, legislators were already putting bits into the deal to buy votes they needed to try to right the economic ship.<BR/><BR/>Too many union members are just as ill-informed and apathetic as American voters during a Presidential or general election.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05734361945694475981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post-61032886665749855792008-10-13T17:05:00.000-04:002008-10-13T17:05:00.000-04:00We pretty much see eye to eye. Here's why:&qu...We pretty much see eye to eye. Here's why:<BR/><BR/>"I think recent union membership just sees it as a way to lock in a high wage without having to do too much hard work."<BR/><BR/>Amen.<BR/><BR/>"Back when unions were desperately needed and someone might try to break your legs for organizing one, people took pride in the concept. It was almost like a religion. But as those that worked hard to attain the protections afforded slowly left the workforce, you're left with a larger number of people that don't appreciate the union for what it is meant to be."<BR/><BR/>And again, Amen.<BR/><BR/>Don't mistake my contempt for how unions curently function & operate to my respect for how & why they were originally formed. I think that unions, as they operate today, are more of a detriment than a benefit & have turned into a money-making scheme as opposed to a worker's benefit group.<BR/><BR/>Too many American's today are looking for a hand-out as opposed to having to work for a living, & the unions have begun catering to that. You don't have to look any further than the automotive industry to see the kind of detrimental impact that poorly run unions can have (note - I said poorly run. Effectively & properly run unions can only benefit both the employer & the employee. Good luck finding an honest labor union leader these days though.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post-3533494162505122612008-10-13T16:50:00.000-04:002008-10-13T16:50:00.000-04:00Spaced and forgot to add this after the "recent un...Spaced and forgot to add this after the "recent union membership" line:<BR/><BR/>Back when unions were desperately needed and someone might try to break your legs for organizing one, people took pride in the concept. It was almost like a religion. But as those that worked hard to attain the protections afforded slowly left the workforce, you're left with a larger number of people that don't appreciate the union for what it is meant to be.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05734361945694475981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post-37733472560166755372008-10-13T16:47:00.000-04:002008-10-13T16:47:00.000-04:00Zod: As you know, we don't see completely eye to e...Zod: As you know, we don't see completely eye to eye on unions. I always say that a union is no better or worse than the majority of its membership. Leadership is elected. Contracts are voted on. <BR/><BR/>I think recent union membership just sees it as a way to lock in a high wage without having to do too much hard work.<BR/><BR/>And I think the jobs are relocating more because of the loosening of trade restrictions. Without NAFTA and other FTAs, companies couldn't move their jobs so easily. <BR/><BR/>Which could get me into how tax breaks for large corporations don't help the average American, since they create more jobs in foreign countries than in America...but I won't do that. ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05734361945694475981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post-9737819800140585332008-10-13T16:35:00.000-04:002008-10-13T16:35:00.000-04:00That's about what I take away from the trailer...That's about what I take away from the trailers. I get a strong cookie cutter vibe from everything he produces, & considering the frequency with which his material strolls its way into theatres, there's nothing to really disuage me from that view. I appreciate what he's trying to do with his films (by portraying African Americans in cinema in roles other than gang-bangers or athletes) but the sameness of his work seems like he's phoning it in for a paycheck.<BR/><BR/>I'm surprised he has a role in the upcoming Trek prequel - he doesn't really strike me as a "Trekkie," & I haven't seen anything in his body of work to suggest that he's attempting to appeal to that audience.<BR/><BR/>As far as the original issue goes - while I'm glad that there are groups such as the WGA to act in the favor of the "little guy," I've generally had a unfavorable view of labor unions in the current market. Do I think they have a place & a purpose? Absolutley. Do I think that place & purpose has been lost along the way due to greed? Absolutley.<BR/><BR/>When unions worked for the common man, they were great. Unions as they function now drive up the cost of goods & force jobs overseas due to increasing labor costs (& yes, I'm speaking from experience.) Union leaders today seem more interested in getting paid to not work than they do with actually protecting workers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post-30299723366822417692008-10-13T16:12:00.000-04:002008-10-13T16:12:00.000-04:00Zod: You're lucky. I've been dragged to a few. In ...Zod: You're lucky. I've been dragged to a few. In all honesty, I can't see anything past being beaten over the head with the female empowerment message in all of the movies. <BR/><BR/>All three I've been roped into seeing have an almost paint-by-numbers transformation of a woman who feels helpless to a strong woman taking full control of their lives, with a few decent jokes sprinkled throughout.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05734361945694475981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post-81572019345939630152008-10-13T15:51:00.000-04:002008-10-13T15:51:00.000-04:00Having never seen a Tyler Perry movie or watched a...Having never seen a Tyler Perry movie or watched an episode of his show, I can't comment on whether or not the characters are "stereotypical." But, I will say, I'm not surprised at all to find people using this as an excuse to go that route.<BR/><BR/>His Atlanta studio opening was attended by some pretty big name folks - Will Smith, Oprah, etc. - I'm wondering what side they'll fall on in this argument.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post-18608134447239968222008-10-13T14:50:00.000-04:002008-10-13T14:50:00.000-04:00Anon: Nothing crooked about health benefits and a ...Anon: Nothing crooked about health benefits and a better wage. Which is what the writers were trying to get when Perry fired them.<BR/><BR/>Zod: Wasn't much of a slam, Zod, but I deleted it as it has nothing to do with this topic. Also deleted the one about McDonald's and "Joe".<BR/><BR/>As far as the race issue, it has come up to a degree already. Mostly because people are using this to launch into diatribes about how bad they think his stereotypical characters are. Other than that, the only color that has come up is green, as in how he's abandoned his principles (at least in this case) to have more of that color in his grasp.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05734361945694475981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post-72730398297993912062008-10-13T13:26:00.000-04:002008-10-13T13:26:00.000-04:00Two comments in for the requisite Dan Slott slam, ...Two comments in for the requisite Dan Slott slam, for no less than a grammatical error. Classy.<BR/><BR/>As far as this whole WGA thing - I can't say as I'm surprised. I'm just wondering how long this will take before it transmogrifies into a race issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14916953.post-65896956549452481702008-10-13T11:18:00.000-04:002008-10-13T11:18:00.000-04:00Well, good for him. STanding up to a crooked inst...Well, good for him. STanding up to a crooked institution like the WGA, let's hear it for the little guy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com